Senator Syed Iqbal Haider (Late)
Jahangir’s World Times (JWT): Why did you leave Pakistan People’s Party?
Syed Iqbal Haider: Ms. Benazir Bhutto gave me enormous honour. She appointed me on different positions and she always assigned me significant responsibilities because she had confidence in me. In fact, it was her sad demise which apparently was the main reason of my quitting politics. The reason to leave me PPP was not that I had other options, instead the present ruling party and the rulers are not according to my nature, therefore, I left politics and the party too. Currently, I am working with Human Rights Commission of Pakistan. My aim is to make Pakistan a tolerant and secular society as well to work for normalisation of Indo-Pak relations. Here, I would like to clarify that secularism does not mean a non-religious society; in fact, secularism allows everyone to practise his religion freely. Quaid-e-Azam expressed his views categorically in his August 11, 1947 address that Pakistan would not be a theocratic state and the religion would be a personal affair of individuals; the state would have nothing to do with the religion. But alas! we ignored Quaid’s views and now it’s a different Pakistan. Today, it’s not only the minorities, even Muslims go to the mosques and imambargahs under the shade of guns; it is a great tragedy. It’s so sad and regrettable that Muslims are being murdered by the Muslims in the name of Islam. We fought four wars with India but number of our soldiers martyred in the wars is far less than the number of martyrs in the war with Taliban. Pakistan army lost about 9,000 soldiers including one lieutenant general, one major general and four or five brigadiers. Furthermore, they also destroyed our schools and killed about 80,000 people. Unfortunately today, Taliban are challenging the writ of Pakistan. They want to take whole Pakistan under their control to establish the rule of their own choice. The credit for the whole disaster goes to Gen. Zia-ul-Haq and Gen. Pervaiz Musharraf, for their wrong policies which ignited the hell out of that.
JWT: Karachi is not only the biggest city but also a big source of revenue for Pakistan, what is the cause of this state of anarchy in the city?
SIH: Well, we cannot afford any threat from our western and eastern border. Thank God relations with China and Iran are not as much deteriorated to expect any physical security threat. Our contention is that Pakistan is at war from within; Pakistan is at war with Afghanistan so, in such a situation Pakistan cannot afford a war with India. Is it not logical? Because at this time India is not indulging in any kind of aggression despite the fact Pakistan is more vulnerable right now. And why India should indulge in any kind of aggression, while due to our own stupid, imprudent and misconceived blunders Pakistan is being destroyed from within. Why one should waste her money, manpower, energy and bullets when we ourselves are enough to destroy Pakistan.
JWT: How do you see the Indian presence in Afghanistan?
SIH: This is another tragedy that Pakistan has suffered so much because of two wars of Afghanistan. On the contrary, Pakistan is utterly disliked by the people and government of Afghanistan. So, there might be anything wrong done by us. At one side, we destroy ourself for Afghanistan but even then the people of Afghanistan prefer India than us. It’s irony I must say. We gave refuge to two million Afghans even then we are unable to earn respect and confidence from the people of Afghanistan. Our country was more peaceful, liberal and tolerant before the first Afghan war; we were among the most civilised country. And let me tell you there was a commission of inquiry when Karachi was made a hostage by the terrorists in 1985, 1986 and 1987. So, the number of policemen in Karachi up to year 1982 was smaller than the number of policemen in New York, London, Mumbai and Kolkata. We were so peaceful and civilised and there was no concept of ‘Bhatta’ in Karachi. But, today even Dhaka is more peaceful than Karachi.